Why do london buses change destination

Santino lovelier than lovely. We should definitely build things that use electricity to do something that has been done perfectly adequately for decades.

Not got a driving licence, I'd suggest. Mrs Magpie On a bit of break I believe the argument is that they are harder to read for anyone with eyesight difficulties.

LT have experimented with dot matrix displays for decades. I took this photo of a Leyland National so-equipped in Kingston in I get the impression that things used to be better in this regard. The routemasters, at least, seemed to have quite a lot of intermediate locations identified. Lamps to show a steady light What I really miss more than anything is the facility on a Routemaster to open a window fore and aft to allow a breeze through the length of a bus.

Other places that used to show intermediate points had a habit of showing something like "part route" instead of the intermediate display if they were doing that sort of thing.

That never caught on in London. There was a brief spell of showing unusual destinations in black on yellow, but that looked too much like the 'not in service' display. Also, the bus will at some point pass those places, so if the photograph is taken somewhere between Brixton and Streatham Station, it is not going to any of those points listed on the intermediate blind, it has already been to them. Dot matrix thingies can, if linked with something that can tell where the bus actually is, alter the display as the bus goes past places, but a scrolling display isn't great if the bus is moving and you've got to decide whether you want to hail it or not Mrs Magpie said:.

For scheduled short workings, LT commonly had blinds with a curtailed list of intermediate points for such eventualities, and always a final destination that was different.

As mentioned above, they always concluded that traditional blinds offered better legibility and reliability. Currently their implementation is governed by TfL's Bus Blinds Committee which establishes that standards to be used by bus operators on TfL routes. Scrolling intermediate points is great if you can wait for them all to process though the display. Often you don't have that time for that. IMO, London buses for most of the last years had the best presented route information of any where in Britain, possibly the world.

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The first London trams were shut down in the s, but the second generation opened in and now runs through Croydon in south London and goes as far west as Wimbledon. The single day actually lasts until the following day to cover any late night journeys.

Find more bus fare information. There are a number of ways to save on your bus and tram journeys in London. Children under the age of 11 travel free and there are other discounts for children, students and concessions. Freedom Passes provide free travel for wheelchair users, as well as for older and disabled persons. If you're from outside London and have a bus pass issued by another English council, you can use it to travel free on buses displaying the red roundel.

Find out about adult discounts and concessions. In most cases, buses only stop at designated bus stops. They do not stop on request between bus stops. To ask the driver to let you off at the next bus stop, press one of the red buttons which can be found on the upright metal posts throughout the bus.

You will probably hear a bell and see a "bus stopping" light appear at the front of the bus. On some routes in outer London, buses operate on a "hail and ride" basis, with no fixed bus stops. Press the red button to signal to the driver and you can then get off at any safe point along the route — you will be informed when a bus is in a "hail and ride" area. Under the FOI act, I would like to know the rules a regulation about when a bus can termite earlier then their actual destination.

This has come about because I keep noticing the 82 and terminating at Finchley Church End i. East End Road and then make the customers pay again on the following bus, I am pretty sure that not apart of their contract to termite at Finchley Church End so isn't this an incomplete journey even though the blind say to Finchley Church End, the Ibus still says to North Finchley.

I would also like to make another request to know if this is allowed. Thank you for your email received by Transport for London TfL on 31 May asking for information about buses terminating ahead of their full route. In the meantime, if you would like to discuss this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for your email received on 31 May asking for information about bus services terminating before their destination. Your request has been considered in accordance with the requirements of the Freedom of Information Act and our information access policy.

I can confirm we do hold the information you require. You asked for:. I have attached our Conditions of Carriage but, for reference, Section 4 of Services and Safety of the Conditions of Carriages states:. Sometimes buses and Underground trains cannot be run at the times or frequencies or to destinations advertised for reasons beyond our control or that of our contractors.

We reserve the right to change timetables and bus routes and to stop Underground trains from running to a particular station without giving notice beforehand. We will only do this for good reasons and, if it happens, we will do our best to tell you why. As you take your belongings, and go to collect your transfer ticket, you wonder why does a bus terminate early? This one's self-explanatory.

If something's up with the bus — engine fault, burst tyre, malfunctioning door — it's coming out of service. Not much can be done about that. Plenty of incidents involving a driver or passenger can lead to a bus being taken out of service. If the driver feels seriously ill, it's in everyone's best interest to pull over. If a passenger becomes seriously ill, they're not going to be kicked off the bus and left on the pavement waiting for an ambulance.

Instead, the bus is put out of service, while the ambulance arrives. Things needn't be dramatic enough to involve an ambulance callout, for a bus route to be curtailed. Buses are supposed to be taken out of service if anyone vomits on board — although drivers don't always notice. And the phrase 'incident' isn't exclusive to medical issues; any number of scenarios might be implied.

Some might even lead to police intervention. Things go wrong with roads.